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Ben Compaine's avatar

Thanks for the perspective, David. Not to debate you point by point, but just two comments for now:

--"...bring your own bag to the grocery store." It's a small thing. But It gets political. Part of Trump's or Le Pen's appeal is to those who see these minor inconveniences collectively as unneeded impositions. Even if they're wrong, it has political implications we need to take seriously. If you think governments are not doing enough now, what happens if either of those--and their ilk--are in control?

--"...if we stopped all carbon emissions now warming would continue for the foreseeable future." My point, exactly. So we should be looking as seriously at adaptation as well as at mitigation. As one piece, technology is not static. Some day--likely after we're gone-- we'll figure out fusion as a prime, renewable, cheap energy source. The Venice Sea Wall may be a primitive prototype for coastal areas. Yes, change will come, but I have greater faith, it seems, that we will cope with the problem.

...To be continued.

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Peter D. Jacobson's avatar

Maybe. It would support your argument of focusing on mitigation strategies. An argument favoring a harm reduction approach is that it might be more acceptable to conservatives who agree that there's a problem but are unwilling to support drastic measures. A problem is that mitigation strategies might be overwhelmed by the speed of climate change.

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